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Badr Hari to be stripped of K-1 heavyweight title, suspended indefinitely

hariremy1The referee tries to restrain Badr Hari as he stomps Remy Bonjasky in their championship match of K-1's World GP 2008.  Hari's actions during and after the bout shocked fight fans worldwide.
"When you won that title you should know now that you are representing a whole country or nation with your actions and you are now in a glass house or under a microscope and you better be ready to make your people proud."
--Alexis Arguello


FEG isn’t messing around with their response to Badr Hari’s illegal strikes and subsequent unsportsmanlike behavior in his DQ loss to Remy Bonjasky in the finals of the K-1 World GP 2000.  Numerous Japanese media sources are reporting that FEG has stripped Hari of the K-1 heavyweight title and will suspend him “indefinitely”. 

Japanese sports newspapers Nikkan Sports and Sports Nippon, among others, have revealed that the punishment was decided upon late Saturday night Tokyo time.  The decision to suspend Hari and strip him of the title was made in a consultation between Fight Entertainment Group President Sadaharu Tanikawa and K-1 Rules Director Nobuaki Kakuda.  Further punishment is also being considered, including a formal reprimand of the Moroccan fighter. 

Hari has been known for having a “bad boy” reputation, but obviously nothing he’s done in the past comes close to the severity of his most recent K-1 malfeasance.  In 2006, Hari got into a name calling exchange with Peter Graham at the pre-event press conference for a K-1 event in New Zealand and afterwards the two men and their entourage engaged in a brief scuffle.  Graham got the best of Hari in their fight, breaking his jaw several places with his “Rolling Thunder” somersault heel kick finisher. 

At K-1 World GP 2006, Hari was knocked down by Ruslan Karaev and after failing to stand or assume a fighting posture the referee awarded the match to the Russian.  Hari’s entourage went ballistic and refused to leave the ring until persuaded to do so by K-1 officials.  This is almost identical to their reaction after Hari was DQ’d in the World GP 2008 Final, though this time they ignored requests of K-1 officials to leave and were finally convinced to act like gentleman by fellow Mike’s Gym competitor Melvin Manhoef.

Hari’s behavior in the final match of the K-1 World GP 2008 in Yokohama, however, transcended being a mere “bad boy” and entered the realm of punk-like.  Hari looked to be in top form as he steamrollered K-1 legend Peter Aerts in the quarterfinal round, then defeated a game Errol Zimmerman in the semi-final match in a “fight of the year” candidate bout that saw both men hit the canvas in the 2nd round.  In the tournament final, he was clearly frustrated by Bonjasky’s excellent defensive techniques though began to make some progress with his jab.  That was, at least, until Bonjasky floored Hari with a short left hand near the end of the first round.  With open scoring in effect, both fighters knew heading into the second that Bonjasky was up 10-8 on all three scorecards.

Hari clearly knew that he had to come out aggressively in the 2nd round and did just that in the opening seconds of the frame scoring with several solid punch/kick combinations.  About 45 seconds in, however, Hari simultaneously threw a punch as Bonjasky was trying to unload one of the leg kicks that served him so well in their first meeting (August 2007).  Bonjasky lost his balance, and Hari either lost his as well or intentionally tried to take his opponent to the mat.  At this point, Hari went nuts unleashing several punches to a grounded Bonjasky which are illegal in K-1.  He followed this up with a downward foot stomp before being restrained by the referee. 

The official went to check on Bonjasky, who was clearly dazed at this point with very glassy eyes.  Hari, meanwhile, stood in the neutral corner alternately sneering and yelling taunts at the Dutch fighter including calling him a “sissy” as he implored him to get up and fight.   Bonjasky was helped to a stool in his corner and given five minutes to recover from the foul while Hari was issued a “yellow card”. 

As the attending physicians administered to Bonjasky, Hari continued to sneer and sulk.  At one point he got into a verbal exchange with Bonjasky’s trainer, Ivan Hippolyte, forcing the referee to shepherd him back to the neutral corner.  Bonjasky reportedly indicated to the attending medical staff that he was “seeing double” and after a brief examination ruled that he could not continue.  With a fair amount of showmanship, the ref gave Hari a brief lecture in Japanese about sportsmanship before brandishing a “red card” and disqualifying him.  Hari and his entourage were slow to leave the ring as K-1 officials tried to get the awards ceremony underway, but eventually Melvin Manhoef talked them out of the ring and back to the locker room.

Things were already going badly for Hari, and he made them worse with his post event comments to the media.  Described by FEG President Takikawa as “unapologetic and defiant”, Hari’s comments suggested that Bonjasky’s corner was “yelling at him to stay down” and that he was “faking” his eye injury for fear of having to face another striking onslaught.  The most inflammatory comment was the observation that while “Bonjasky won the tournament, it was for being the ‘best actor’ and not the ‘best fighter’”.

FEG/K-1 hasn’t made a public statement or confirmation on the penalty as of yet, but is expected to do so early this week.  At that time, they may announce further penalties along with conditions for getting his “indefinite” suspension lifted.  Alternately, they could just leave him swinging and put the onus on Hari to apply for reinstatement down the line.  FEG will also have to make some arrangement for filling the heavyweight championship vacancy.

Hari’s intentional foul and subsequent horrible behavior was bad enough, but he made the unfortunate decision to go ballistic on K-1’s biggest event of the year.  The fact that they’re trying to grow the promotion internationally and were broadcasting the World GP Final live to the US didn’t help matters.  He dug his hole deeper by failing to apologize to Bonjasky, K-1, the fans, or anyone for that matter.  To the contrary, he fanned the flames of the controversy after the fact by questioning the validity of his opponent’s injury and “fighting spirit”. 

Badr Hari is only 24 years old, so he’s got plenty of time to redeem himself in the eyes of his promotion and fight fans if he chooses to do so.  He’s also an amazing talent, which makes his decision to behave in a manner so unfitting for a champion so much more of a shame.  Professional prizefighters may work harder than any athletes on the planet, but most realize that participation in the sport is not a “right” but a privilege.  True champions understand that their sport, be it boxing, MMA or kickboxing, owes them nothing.  At the same time, however, they have a duty to protect the honor and dignity of fight sports and the legacy of how a champion behaves both in and out of the ring.  This legacy has been shaped by champions such as Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Muhammad Ali, Royce Gracie, Fedor Emelianenko, Semmy Schilt, Peter Aerts, Ernesto Hoost and countless others.  To be called champion is not only an honor and a monumental accomplishment, but an obligation to compete and conduct oneself in a manner befitting of the title and worthy of the champions who came before and built the legacy of greatness.

Until Hari learns this, he won’t be a true champion no matter how hard he hits or how many excuses he makes to rationalize his behavior.
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written by makka , January 31, 2009
badr hari he isvery cool boy,I love him
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written by Jim , December 15, 2008
Thanks Jim for your appreciation and clear views that really complement my thoughts...

Having said all that, I really want to see Bard Hari fight again and again!! I might not like him as a person but his style & the power and agressiveness (sic) he brings to K-1 is like vital energy that is kinda missing.

He has the right combination to give any fighter he meets a "run for his money" so to speak.

My pleasure, and I agree that Hari is a very entertaining fighter to watch. If you haven't read our latest update on the Hari situation take a look at it--at this point, IMO at least, its going to be hard for K-1 to throw the book at him. My personal hunch is that he'll be stripped of the title but not suspended. The way K-1 has handled it--since there's no sanctioning body providing oversight to any penalty--is comical. Hari's offenses are "unforgivable" unless they can make a buck from them? Can't say I'm*surprised* by that, but in any case they owe it to Hari to not leave him in limbo.
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written by dooobz , December 15, 2008
Thanks Jim for your appreciation and clear views that really complement my thoughts...

Having said all that, I really want to see Bard Hari fight again and again!! I might not like him as a person but his style & the power and agressiveness (sic) he brings to K-1 is like vital energy that is kinda missing.

He has the right combination to give any fighter he meets a "run for his money" so to speak.
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written by Jim , December 14, 2008
Remy does that....capitalize on any mistake...Do not forget this is these guy's job...If you can get the money with the most intelligent system and at the same time save your equipment (your body) from wear and tear (beating) then, He would be stupid not to do that!!
People who think in these "nostalgic" ways of the "Fighter" and "Honor" & "Sportsmanship" are dinosaurs (in my own humble opinion off course) and mostly non-professionals.
What i am outraged about is not really Badr's reaction but more the reaction of the officials of the event!!!!!!!!!! the RED card should have sprung out imediately and Remy wouldn't have even had to act one bit!!!!!!!!!
In my book this is AUTOMATIC DISQUALIFICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



First of all thanks for the excellent comment. It does my heart good when we get such intelligent comments.

While I'm not sure that "honor" and "sportsmanship" are dated notions, I think that a lot of people--particularly those who are Hari backers--forget the distinction between a street fight and a fight sport. In K-1 or other fight sport, the idea is to win within the rules--if you can do so spectacularly (like Hari at his best, Mirko Cro Cop in his prime, etc.) more power to you. Remy's general style--eg: defensive oriented--has been proven over and over again to be arguably the most effective for longterm success. In boxing you can go all the way back to Willie Pep (though he was pretty good offensively as well), and up through Pernell Whittaker and Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It's hard to beat guys you can't hit and Remy Bonjasky definitely falls into that category. That's why Mayweather still has all of his faculties and doesn't have a face that look like it has been fed through a meat grinder. And that's why Bonjasky walked off with the check, the trophy and his hot blond girlfriend.

Your point on the response of the K-1 officials is also right on the money--I don't know if you've read some of the other articles written by our Japan expert Lyman Hoyt but that's a recurring theme in his work. The Japanese fight industry just doesn't have the same regulatory oversight as their US counterparts, which leaves them to often make up the rules as they go along. I generally like the yellow card/red card system in theory, but its too arbitrary in practice. The reaction of the ref was strange--he waited a bit and then waved the yellow card at Hari. I guess you could make a case that he wanted to get order restored and make sure Bonjasky was OK first before he dealt with Hari. That doesn't explain why he basically waited a bit and *then* DQ'd Hari. He could have been waiting to see if Bonjasky could continue, which would be consistent with regulations in Nevada--he gave Hari the yellow card immediately after the foul and *then* when he determined that Bonjasky
couldn't continue awarded the DQ. Of course had the fight been conducted under Nevada State Regulations the ref would have had the *authority* to DQ Hari immediately if he so chose--here's my take on why it happened the way it did: the ref didn't want to end the event on a DQ if he could avoid it. He didn't DQ Hari until Bonjasky couldn't continue and he didn't have any option. Maybe not the best officiating, but probably the right move from a business standpoint.

((apparently my comment is too long so I'll split it up into two posts))
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written by Jim , December 14, 2008
I agree with your observations about Hari's reaction, at least to an extent. I'd also suggest that such a reaction is consistent with Hari's "bad boy" image and longterm its in his best interest to cultivate that. Of course its possible to take that too far and get himself run out of the sport, like Mike Tyson did here in the US. You're absolutely right that frustrating Hari might have been part of Bonjasky's strategy and a good one. Using another boxing example, that's where Muhammad Ali may have been at his best--mentally intimidating and frustrating his opponents. As far as the "lucky punch", to hear most fighters who get knocked down tell it most of them are the result of "lucky punches". Again, that's part of the sport--obviously the knockdown didn't seriously hurt Hari but that's not a requirement of scoring a knockdown. Lucky or not, it put him on the canvas and down 10-8 in a three round fight. Against a guy with such solid defensive skills as Bonjasky that's a big deal and could have enhanced his frustration which led to the foul and the aftermath. Some people may not like defensive oriented fighting (I have a soft spot for it myself) but properly executed its very effective.

And to your final point, I won't go so far as to call the punch "lucky" since in my mind its a by-product of Bonjasky's style. It definitely didn't hurt Hari physically, but it served its intended purpose. Had Bonjasky not been so elusive and difficult to hit he wouldn't have had the opportunity for what I'd call a "flash knockdown" (rather than a lucky punch). To put the shoe on the other foot, its not like Hari didn't know what to expect against Bonjasky--his style is well known and he's fought him before. For him not to have been mentally and tactically prepared to deal with a contrast in styles suggests to me that he still has some work to do on the intellectual aspect of fighting.

In any case, great comment and we hope to hear more of 'em in the future!
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written by dooobz , December 14, 2008
hi y'all,

Remy does that....capitalize on any mistake...Do not forget this is these guy's job...If you can get the money with the most intelligent system and at the same time save your equipment (your body) from wear and tear (beating) then, He would be stupid not to do that!!
People who think in these "nostalgic" ways of the "Fighter" and "Honor" & "Sportsmanship" are dinosaurs (in my own humble opinion off course) and mostly non-professionals.
What i am outraged about is not really Badr's reaction but more the reaction of the officials of the event!!!!!!!!!! the RED card should have sprung out imediately and Remy wouldn't have even had to act one bit!!!!!!!!!
In my book this is AUTOMATIC DISQUALIFICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for Badr's reaction, while inexcusable, it is in fact logical....They are both in the same vital space (Holland) and both probably hate each other....(with Badr hating a little bit more than normal).
You can clearly see Remy's way of fighting is really about protecting himself and not about fighting per se. He is good at avoiding the fight and "stealing" the occasional points that help him win. He doesn't penetrate far enough to deliver "crippling blows" and is satisfied by just "scoring"....(just like point Karate sort of...)
You are going to argue that he scored a kdown but I'm going to argue it was a lucky punch!!
Also I think he and his team know that Hari looses his temper occasionally and that would at least make him less precise or focused and that would be all Remy needs to quickly jump in and out and score and do his thing....

A symphony all too well conducted.....or maybe not...!!??
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Oh boy.
written by Adam , December 13, 2008
He f*cked up big time, costing him the world heavy weight title. He needs to apologize and earn back his rep by apologizing, moving on, and start from the beginning.
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written by Scarface , December 13, 2008
Badr Hari ist a Joke a born loser! He fight like a gay and he looks like a gay ! LOOL HARI and go to sleep again or hospital : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8TaToM5ric HAHAHAHAHHAAH !!! Peter Graham killed him !
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written by Jim , December 10, 2008
i am a Big Badr Hari Fan and he made the best fights of them all this year.
Best technique, speed of Bruce Lee and Big psychological power. I love his fights but i must say
that he disappointed me with his actions.
Badr! : Wheter you hate hin or not, be a bussiness man an appologize yourself. You fans want you to be a gentlemen!!!!!


Martin, my friend, thank you for a most intelligent and perceptive comment.

No one has anything personally against Hari, the least of all us here at SAVSCI. The guy is a blast to watch in the ring. He just needs to realize that K-1 isn't a street fight and that he's not going to convince anyone that he was in the right in this situation.

He needs to do as you say--just apologize and go on with his business of being a professional prize fighter. The way he's dealt with this is ultimately self defeating--it hurts his career and his pocketbook. No one expects him to be best friends with Bonjasky or anyone else.

A lot of the Hari supporters who have commented here and elsewhere have the mistaken notion that he's been treated unfairly and that K-1 is "out to get him". That couldn't be further from the truth--if any other fighter committed that foul and then reacted as Hari did they would be facing the same treatment.

In any case, thanks again for your comment...
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Badr Hari
written by Martin , December 10, 2008
Hi alltogether,

i am a Big Badr Hari Fan and he made the best fights of them all this year.
Best technique, speed of Bruce Lee and Big psychological power. I love his fights but i must say
that he disappointed me with his actions.
Badr! : Wheter you hate hin or not, be a bussiness man an appologize yourself. You fans want you to be a gentlemen!!!!!
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written by Jim , December 09, 2008
So by that rationale if Hari grabbed, say, a folding chair or pulled some brass knuckles out of his trunks and clocked Bonjasky with them he shouldn't be DQ'd because its "all about fighting"?

If Hari really thinks he's such a bad dude and doesn't like fighting constrained by rules there's opportunities all over the world for him to compete that way. Only he won't be doing it in front of cameras, won't get paid as much and won't be a celebrity.

That's why boxing, MMA, K-1, etc are called fight *sports*. They're governed by rules. By your rationale, Oscar De La Hoya should have been allowed to take Manny Pacquaio to the ground and start a "ground and pound" attack when the fight stopped going well for him.

Plus, don't forget that Bonjasky won the first round 10-8 and scored the only knockdown of the fight. Hard to buy the notion that he didn't think he could win the fight--he'd beaten Hari before so he should have had even more confidence.

Even those ridiculous YouTube street fights in the parking lots of boat dealerships that Kimbo Slice used to do had rules. If Hari wants to add the "ground and pound" to his repertoire I'm sure that World Victory Road or DREAM would be glad to have him. The concept that rules are sacrosanct in fight sports dates back well over a century to when John Graham Chambers wrote down the first Marquis of Queensbury endorsed boxing code that included this line:

"you must not fight simply to win; no holds barred is not the way; you must win by the rules"

Same deal applies now whether its K-1, UFC, boxing or whatever.

And the salient issue isn't whether or how badly Bonjasky was actually hurt--if Hari had injured him with a *legal* blow it would have been a TKO loss for Remy. Since it came about by an *illegal* blow Bonjasky gets every benefit of the doubt in the situation. If Hari had smarts to go along with his skills he would have realized that before he pulled the stunt and would understand it now. It doesn't matter if Bonjasky was seeing double, triple or 20/20--Hari flagrantly and severely broke the rules, Bonjasky was injured in the process and couldn't continue. Had Hari not behaved like such a profound jackass after his foul, the fight may have been ruled a "no contest" in the same way that the Shinya Aoki/JZ Calvan opening round fight in the DREAM lightweight GP was when Aoki couldn't continue due to an illegal elbow strike by JZC. JZC actually had a case that his strikes *were* legal, which Hari clearly did not. Instead of making a stink about it, he dealt with the situation like a gentleman and champion should and accepted the 'no contest' and rematch. That's why he'll be fighting in a high profile match on New Years' Eve while Hari won't be fighting anywhere anytime soon.

Within the context of the fight, Hari's 'ground and pound' and stomp attack was bad enough. Hari's post fight behavior is what elevated it to arguably the most egregious violation of the rules--not to mention the decorum and honor that all professional prizefighters are supposed to share--that I've seen in a lifetime of watching fight sports.

Hari's not only a dirty fighter and a classless punk, but a *dumb* dirty fighter and classless punk. Had he at least *acted* contrite, made the requisite apologies and tried to sound somewhat sincere he would have walked out of the building with a big payday and most likely been booked for a quick rematch against Bonjasky where he would have made even *more* money. As it is, he looks even more classless and juvenile and won't be fighting anyone for any amount of money for the foreseeable future.

At some point,Hari should get a "second chance" but at this point stripping him of the heavyweight title and suspending him indefinitely is most definitely appropriate.

Also, K-1 needs to stop claiming that their champion is "the best standup fighter in the world". The "best standup fighter in the world" is that little Filipino guy who beat Oscar De La Hoya in Las Vegas on Saturday night....
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badr, remi.
written by daniel , December 09, 2008
Badr has shown us that he is the best fighter to enter the K-1 ring,
though he let his emotions take over in his last fight with Remy Bonjasky i dont really care, he got his yellow card at first, and first it seemed to me that Remy was going to get up and finnish what they both started, Remy choosed the easy way out and the easyest way to get the 400 000 dollars.

Let us all remember that K-1 is about fighting, to some it doesn't seem very glorious or spectacular and to us on the other side of that argument it does,
fighting is fighting, acting is something that belongs in hollywood .

I mean lets be honest, it isn't the first time that Remy has received a punch or a kick, for gods sake he has been in K-1 fighting for many years, and for him to take a kick when he was down that did not even look hard, and then claim that he see's double and say that he cannot continue the fight is just ridiculous.

To me it is like this:
The man who came to fight, who brought the fight to Remy got disqualifyed.
The man who fought defensive, who saw an opportunity to lay back and collect some cash won.


K-1 please, don't talk about samurai spirit or a fighters heart anymore because you just witnessed the greatest fighter in the world at this time getting stripped of everything he has worked hard for, because of one little foul, that didn't seem that critical at the point it occured.

I thought that K-1 belonged to fighters, i thought we had that.

Maybe i am old fashion, but the next time you want to mention a "fighters heart" or a "samurai spirit" you might reconsider and mention, that guy has an "actors heart" and then give him the 400k end of story.
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Bann him for a big time
written by Badr sucks , December 08, 2008
Bann him for a big time. Only if he apologizes to Remy and the fans let him in again.
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